For years, I used Dubsado to manage my clients.
And honestly? It was fine. It did what it was supposed to do—contracts, invoices, workflows, the whole thing.
But here’s what nobody tells you about tools like Dubsado: They work great until they don’t fit how your brain actually works.
After 7 years of building backend systems for 350+ service-based business owners, I realized something: I was spending more time fighting with Dubsado than actually using it. The workflows felt rigid. The interface felt cluttered. And every time I wanted to customize something, I had to dig through 47 settings menus.
So I ditched it. And I moved everything to Notion.
Here’s why I made the switch—and how I actually manage clients in Notion now.
Why I Left Dubsado
Don’t get me wrong—Dubsado is a solid tool. It’s built specifically for service-based businesses, and it does a lot of things well.
However, it wasn’t working for me anymore. Here’s why:
Reason 1: It felt too complicated for what I needed
Dubsado is designed to handle everything: contracts, invoices, proposals, questionnaires, workflows, client portals, scheduler, forms… the list goes on.
And that’s great if you need all of that. However, I realized I didn’t actually need 90% of those features. I was paying for (and maintaining) a complex system when I really just needed a simple way to track clients and projects.
Reason 2: I couldn’t see everything at a glance
With Dubsado, client information lives in different places. You have to click into individual client profiles to see where they are in the process. There’s no bird’s-eye view of all your clients at once.
I’m a visual thinker. I need to see everything in one place—who’s waiting on contracts, who’s mid-project, who’s wrapping up, who needs follow-up.
Dubsado couldn’t give me that.
Reason 3: It didn’t fit how I actually work
Dubsado is designed around workflows and automation. And that’s powerful—if your client process is exactly the same every single time.
However, my work is more custom. Every client is different. And trying to force everything into pre-built workflows felt limiting instead of helpful.
I needed something more flexible. Something I could customize to fit how I actually work instead of forcing myself to work how the tool wanted me to.
Why I Switched to Notion
I’d been using Notion for notes and documentation for a while. And one day I thought: What if I just… managed my clients here too?
So I built a simple client database. And honestly? It changed everything.
Here’s what I love about managing clients in Notion:
Reason 1: I can see everything at once
My Notion CRM is a database. Every client is a row. And I can see their status, project type, start date, deliverables, payment status—all in one view.
No clicking into individual profiles. No navigating through menus. Just one clean board that shows me exactly where every client stands.
Additionally, I can filter and sort however I need to. Want to see only active clients? Done. Want to see everyone who needs follow-up? One click.
Reason 2: It’s completely customizable
With Dubsado, you’re working within their structure. You can customize some things, but you’re still limited by what the platform allows.
With Notion, I can build exactly what I need.
It fits my brain instead of making my brain fit the tool.
Reason 3: Everything lives in one place
Before, my client information was in Dubsado, my project tasks were in another tool, my notes were somewhere else, and my templates were scattered.
Now? Everything is in Notion. Client database, project tracker, meeting notes, templates, contracts, proposals—all in one workspace.
No more switching between tools. No more “wait, where did I put that?”
How I Actually Manage Clients in Notion
Okay, so here’s my current setup. It’s simple, but it works.
Step 1: Client inquiry form on my website
When someone fills out my contact form on my website, it feeds directly into a Notion database using a form integration.
All their information—name, email, what they need, budget, timeline—goes straight into Notion as a new entry in my CRM database.
No manual data entry. No copying and pasting from emails.
Step 2: Notion CRM database
My CRM database has these fields:
- Client name
- Service interested in (Strategy Intensive, Done-With-You Build, Quiet Systems Society)
- Status (New inquiry, Contract sent, Active, Completed, Archived)
- Start date
- Project type
- Payment status
- Notes
I can view this as a table, a board (Kanban-style), or a calendar depending on what I need to see.
Most of the time, I use the board view organized by status. That way I can see at a glance who’s in each stage of the process.
Step 3: Project tracking
Each client entry links to a project page where I track:
- Deliverables and deadlines
- Meeting notes
- Files and resources
- Communication history
- Next steps
Everything related to that client lives in one place.
Step 4: Templates for everything
I have templates for:
- Client onboarding checklist
- Project kickoff notes
- Weekly check-in structure
- Client offboarding process
When a new client comes in, I just duplicate the template and customize it for them. Takes about 30 seconds.
What I Use Instead of Dubsado’s Features
For contracts: I use a separate contract tool (like Tally or HelloSign) that integrates with Notion. The signed contract gets saved in the client’s Notion page.
For payments: Thrivecart or directly from Relay. Payment links go in the contract or in an email. When they pay, I update the payment status in Notion.
For email automation: Flodesk. I have automated sequences set up for onboarding, check-ins, and offboarding. Much simpler than trying to manage email inside a CRM.
For scheduling: Tidycal. It’s a one-time cost tool, it works, and it integrates with Google Calendar.
So yes, I’m using more tools than I did with Dubsado. However, each tool does one thing really well instead of trying to be everything. And Notion ties it all together by being the central hub where all client information lives.
Who Should (and Shouldn’t) Ditch Dubsado for Notion
Look, I’m not here to tell you Dubsado is bad. It’s not. It’s a great tool for a lot of people.
Stick with Dubsado if:
- You love automation and want everything to run on autopilot
- You have a very repeatable client process that’s the same every time
- You want contracts, invoices, and payments all handled in one place
- You don’t want to think about your systems—you just want them to work
Switch to Notion if:
- You’re a visual person who needs to see everything at once
- Your client process is custom and flexible (not the same every time)
- You want complete control over how you organize information
- You’re willing to set up integrations to connect Notion with other tools
- You love building systems and want something you can customize endlessly
For me, Notion wins because I value flexibility and visibility over automation. However, that’s just how my brain works.
The Bottom Line
I don’t regret using Dubsado for as long as I did. It taught me what I actually needed in a client management system.
And now I have something better—something that fits how I work instead of forcing me to work around it.
If you’re feeling frustrated with your current CRM, maybe it’s not you. Maybe it’s just not the right tool for how your brain works.
Want to See My Notion CRM Setup?
I teach my exact Notion CRM setup (including the database template and form integration) inside The Quiet Systems Society.
You’ll get:
- My Notion CRM template (duplicate it and customize it for your business)
- Step-by-step setup guide
- Form integration tutorial
- Project tracking templates
- Ongoing support when you get stuck
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Or, if you want help building your entire backend system (not just the CRM), book a Done-With-You Backend Build and I’ll set it all up with you in one session.
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